Hellsing = Owns Yo Ass

Jusander
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Post by Jusander »


as far as mecha anime goes, escaflowne (if you can count it as mecha...) is fairly good, if not a little girly/romanceish...evangelion simply rawks, (LOL RELIGIOUS INUENDO!!)

For some reason I can't get myself into enjoying mecha anime. Seeing machines weighing tons leaping around like acrobats and beating others with melee weapons makes me laugh out loud. Escaflowne seemed promising at first but in later episodes it escaped too far from reality ("fate changing machine", "luck genes", gene manipulation by changing the blood). The philosophical aspects in Evangelion are a nice addition but the ridiculousness of the mecha fights ruins the series for me.


 


Kindred: unfortunately I don't have it.


Kindred
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Post by Kindred »



as far as mecha anime goes, escaflowne (if you can count it as mecha...) is fairly good, if not a little girly/romanceish...evangelion simply rawks, (LOL RELIGIOUS INUENDO!!)

For some reason I can't get myself into enjoying mecha anime. Seeing machines weighing tons leaping around like acrobats and beating others with melee weapons makes me laugh out loud. Escaflowne seemed promising at first but in later episodes it escaped too far from reality ("fate changing machine", "luck genes", gene manipulation by changing the blood). The philosophical aspects in Evangelion are a nice addition but the ridiculousness of the mecha fights ruins the series for me.


 


Kindred: unfortunately I don't have it.



Man the only place I have found it was E-Bay and those where just recorded copies of dilapidated originals. And people where charging way too much for those. :mad:


Sabin
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Post by Sabin »

I got the first ep of Noir with this months newtype magazine and i would have to say i found it to be pretty good. I'll admit that its not for everyone though. If you like mecha anime definetly check out full metal panic. Its not perfect (the story seems to take the back seat somewhere in the middle of the series) its still a damn good series. Its also on my ftp so help yourself. Right now Chobits is roxing my ass though. If you like cowboy bebop you owe it to yourself to check out outlaw star. Its similar in some ways and seems to have more continuity. Also, everyone should watch azumanga daioh. It is definetly different from what all you guys are probably used to (except bug who got me on it) but its a really good series. I would give a brief synopsis of it here if i didn't have to leave for work in a minute but i do have the whole series on my ftp right now so feel free to check out a couple of eps though they are fairly large files. Those of you who don't have my ftp info will have to come on IRC to get it from someone there as i don't want it posted on the forums. If i'm not around someone there should be able to hook you up with it.

BuG
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Post by BuG »

Berserks fantasy settings lends its self more to the 100 man slayer thing rather than Noirs real life type scenario.

Pariah Redux
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Post by Pariah Redux »

Kindred: I totally agree with you about Hellsing. It's my favorite anime along with Cowboy Bebop. I have all the DVDs so far ;)

Jusander
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Post by Jusander »


Berserks fantasy settings lends its self more to the 100 man slayer thing rather than Noirs real life type scenario.

A matter of opinion. I like realistic and logical scenarios and storylines no matter what the genre is. Magic is naturally an exception as long as it follows the logic of the world the story takes place in. Fantasy (and SciFi) settings can and IMO should be planned logically.


 


If you don't like Noir that's perfectly OK to me. Just don't make statements like "Noir is paper thin" if you can't support it. That's why I asked you what did you like about the story: if you have watched more than a few random episodes it's difficult for me to understand how you can say something like that. The only other anime series I have seen that are even close to Noir's level storywise are Trigun and some parts of Witch Hunter Robin. (I haven't been able to bring myself to watch more than a few episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion. See my earlier comment about mecha-anime.)


 


As an afterthought here are a few things that annoyed me in Berserk since you mentioned the flaws you saw in Noir:


 


- with few exceptions the stategies used in the battles were childishly simple and still Griffith was admired as a strategic genius


- The Hawks used mainly light swords against opponents wearing full armor (Gatts being the only exception)


- the 100-man slaying


- none of the Hawks whose names were mentioned (7-8?) died although they were waging war continuously for years. Until the final few episodes where the demons attacked, that is.


- a clich? incompetent, cowardly and enormously annoying enemy leader as a comical relief. Comedy was what the (very good) story needed least; it is a thouroughly dark and horror-influenced story and this just wrecked the style.


- "Blue Whale Ultra-Heavy Armored Reckless Knights of Destruction Vice-Squad-Leader Samson". See the comment above about wrecking the style of the story.


 


I could keep going and could even make a similar list about the flaws in Noir but it would be useless. My opinion is when I compare these two series that Noir is style- and storywise a better made package. Besides, Kirika (or Mireille or Chloe or anyone in Noir) isn't nearly as invincible as Gatts. Like I said there are maybe two scenes where Kirika stands straight and enemies aren't able to hit her but that's nothing compared to what Gatts does.


Jusander
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Post by Jusander »

Oh fuck! Sorry Kindred; I just realized that I have had Warriors of the Wind but I removed it when I needed more HD space. The reason I didn't notice this earlier is that the Japanese version (subbed in English) I had is titled Valley of the Nausicaa. Try to search it with this title and I'm pretty sure you'll find it. It took me less than a week to dl it from Kazaa.

Kindred
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Post by Kindred »

You know the disturbing part is I have done the research to get the Japanese name and... well I never did a search for it.   :(  :mad:

Jusander
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Post by Jusander »

Correction: the title is Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind. Stupid brain fade...

Kindred
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Post by Kindred »


Correction: the title is Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind. Stupid brain fade...

bah the word Naiussica was enough to nab the wee elusive little bastard.


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